I think the one bit that pumps people's intuition is linking it to brain scans/one to one simulation of a specific person. cf Lena

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Kevin Hern
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No21%
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Party align97%
Cross-party1%
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Kevin Hern
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oh i'm not talking about now. but. I think people who are eager to reject the conversation now are occasionally a little hasty to say "never" when the downside of doing that wrongly would be bad
One of the things I want to do if I'm given like… a week to make an underwhelming video, is do a single pass through an LLM by hand on pen and paper.
and the awkward thing is i'm not entirely confident you can't simulate consciousness in silicon?
one fun corollary about machine sentience is that if it is true that you can simulate consciousness in silicon it follows that you can simulate consciousness in a sufficiently large stack of paper
should you care more about the suffering of 10^100 instances of GPT-5 Pro or one shrimp
main issue with it is it's called X now
x.com/ESYudkowsky/... tweet's held up huh
Like, there are exact cognates of this problem in human language. If I tokenise “how many Ls in ‘Lyla’” into katakana, it’s basically impossible to answer
Thanks David
But it doesn’t! It’s very very specifically a problem with _tokenisers_, in a way that is true of almost no other general problem with LLMs/transformers
I’m nitpicking: the general point (reasoning models are going to be the main product here and that’s bad for the economics) is fine. But I think there’s a desire to generalise a _very_ specific problem in ways that tortures it
Definitely important! I’m not sure that the strawberry problem suggests it makes that confusion (honestly, I’m pretty sure it does not generalise in that direction at all)
I don’t understand, sorry. When is counting the Rs in strawberry while vibe coding?
Yes? So you use code to solve them not an LLM
Ehhh idk, if you give it a specific type of question that is structured specifically to be hard for a tokeniser it can’t answer it efficiently but why are you turning to a tokeniser to solve that question
I don’t think this party trick has any real impact on the estimates for cost per usable token
I do this on BA every time and it works 75-80% of the time
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582 total votes
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| Date | Bill | Question | Position | Party Maj | Align? | Result |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025-12-12 | H.R. 3668 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-12 | H.R. 3668 (119th) | Send back to committee | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 2550 (119th) | Final passage | NO | NO | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H. Res. 432 (119th) | Approve resolution | NO | NO | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3898 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3898 (119th) | Send back to committee | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3383 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3383 (119th) | Approve amendment | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3383 (119th) | Approve amendment | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3383 (119th) | Approve amendment | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3638 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H.R. 3628 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-11 | H. Res. 939 (119th) | Kill the motion | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-10 | H. Res. 432 (119th) | Motion to Discharge | NO | NO | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-10 | S. 1071 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-10 | S. 1071 (119th) | Motion to Commit | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-12-10 | H. Res. 936 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-10 | H. Res. 936 (119th) | End debate now | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-10 | H.R. 1676 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-09 | S. 356 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-04 | H.R. 1049 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-04 | H.R. 1069 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-03 | H.R. 1005 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-03 | H.R. 4305 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-03 | H.R. 2965 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-02 | H. Res. 916 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-02 | H. Res. 916 (119th) | End debate now | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-02 | H.R. 4423 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-12-01 | H.R. 5348 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 1949 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 3109 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H. Res. 893 (119th) | Motion to Refer | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 6019 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 4058 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 5107 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-20 | H.R. 5214 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-19 | H. Res. 888 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-11-19 | S.J. Res. 80 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-19 | H.J. Res. 131 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-19 | H.J. Res. 130 (119th) | Final passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-18 | H. Res. 888 (119th) | Motion to Refer | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-11-18 | H. Res. 878 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-18 | H. Res. 879 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-18 | H. Res. 879 (119th) | End debate now | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-18 | H.R. 4405 (119th) | Fast-track passage | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-18 | H. Res. 878 (119th) | Kill the motion | NO | NO | ✓ | Failed |
| 2025-11-18 | H.R. 2659 (119th) | Fast-track passage | NOT_VOTING | YES | — | Passed |
| 2025-11-17 | H.R. 1608 (119th) | Fast-track passage | NOT_VOTING | YES | — | Passed |
| 2025-11-13 | H.R. 5371 (119th) | Accept Senate changes | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
| 2025-11-12 | H. Res. 873 (119th) | Approve resolution | YES | YES | ✓ | Passed |
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